Monitoring Paged and non paged pool memory

[Lalorm]

Hi all,
can anyone tell me how I can create a performance view to monitor paged and
non paged pool memory on our exchange servers using SCOM 2007? I can create
performance views for other counters, but I can't get these to work. The
rules I'm trying to use are...
Memory Pool Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Non-paged Bytes 2008

Any help would be great.
Cheers
Mike

[Anders Bengtsson [MVP]]

Hello Lalorm,

Do you see the counter in the console, else you need to start create a collection
rule to collect the performance data from the machine.

Anders Bengtsson
Microsoft MVP - System Center Operations Manager
www.contoso.se

Post by Lalorm
Hi all,
can anyone tell me how I can create a performance view to monitor paged and
non paged pool memory on our exchange servers using SCOM 2007? I can create
performance views for other counters, but I can't get these to work.
The
rules I'm trying to use are...
Memory Pool Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Non-paged Bytes 2008
Any help would be great.
Cheers
Mike

[Lalorm]

Hi Anders,
thanks for your reply. What I'm doing is basically creating a performance
view and selecting the Windows Server Target which uses the Windows Core
Library management pack. I then select the group of servers to monitor
against and select the Collect by specific rules. I then select the
following rules from the list...
Memory Pool Non-Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Pages Bytes 2008
I click ok and ok again and the performance view is saved. However I don't
see any counters to select to view in the lower right hand window.
Is there something else I need to set / do before I can get these counters
to work?
Cheers
Mike

Post by Anders Bengtsson [MVP]
Hello Lalorm,
Do you see the counter in the console, else you need to start create a collection
rule to collect the performance data from the machine.
Anders Bengtsson
Microsoft MVP - System Center Operations Manager
www.contoso.se

Post by Lalorm
Hi all,
can anyone tell me how I can create a performance view to monitor paged and
non paged pool memory on our exchange servers using SCOM 2007? I can create
performance views for other counters, but I can't get these to work.
The
rules I'm trying to use are...
Memory Pool Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Non-paged Bytes 2008
Any help would be great.
Cheers
Mike

[Steven Halsey [MSFT]]

You are going to want to use "Windows Server 2008 Operating System" as the
target for the performance view.
The Rules you mentioned to get Memory are targeted at this object type,
using the base class won't get you performance counters for those objects.
--
Steven Halsey [MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Post by Lalorm
Hi Anders,
thanks for your reply. What I'm doing is basically creating a performance
view and selecting the Windows Server Target which uses the Windows Core
Library management pack. I then select the group of servers to monitor
against and select the Collect by specific rules. I then select the
following rules from the list...
Memory Pool Non-Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Pages Bytes 2008
I click ok and ok again and the performance view is saved. However I don't
see any counters to select to view in the lower right hand window.
Is there something else I need to set / do before I can get these counters
to work?
Cheers
Mike

Post by Anders Bengtsson [MVP]
Hello Lalorm,
Do you see the counter in the console, else you need to start create a collection
rule to collect the performance data from the machine.
Anders Bengtsson
Microsoft MVP - System Center Operations Manager
www.contoso.se

Post by Lalorm
Hi all,
can anyone tell me how I can create a performance view to monitor paged and
non paged pool memory on our exchange servers using SCOM 2007? I can create
performance views for other counters, but I can't get these to work.
The
rules I'm trying to use are...
Memory Pool Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Non-paged Bytes 2008
Any help would be great.
Cheers
Mike

[Lalorm]

Hi Steven,

I tried your suggestion, however I still don't see those two rules. If I
select the Target as Windows Server 2008 Operating System and don't select a
specific rule, it gives me a load of counters to view and alot of memory
counters, but no paged and non paged pool counters. Am I missing something?

Cheers
Michael

Post by Steven Halsey [MSFT]
You are going to want to use "Windows Server 2008 Operating System" as the
target for the performance view.
The Rules you mentioned to get Memory are targeted at this object type,
using the base class won't get you performance counters for those objects.
--
Steven Halsey [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Post by Lalorm
Hi Anders,
thanks for your reply. What I'm doing is basically creating a performance
view and selecting the Windows Server Target which uses the Windows Core
Library management pack. I then select the group of servers to monitor
against and select the Collect by specific rules. I then select the
following rules from the list...
Memory Pool Non-Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Pages Bytes 2008
I click ok and ok again and the performance view is saved. However I don't
see any counters to select to view in the lower right hand window.
Is there something else I need to set / do before I can get these counters
to work?
Cheers
Mike

Post by Anders Bengtsson [MVP]
Hello Lalorm,
Do you see the counter in the console, else you need to start create a collection
rule to collect the performance data from the machine.
Anders Bengtsson
Microsoft MVP - System Center Operations Manager
www.contoso.se

Post by Lalorm
Hi all,
can anyone tell me how I can create a performance view to monitor paged and
non paged pool memory on our exchange servers using SCOM 2007? I can create
performance views for other counters, but I can't get these to work.
The
rules I'm trying to use are...
Memory Pool Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Non-paged Bytes 2008
Any help would be great.
Cheers
Mike

[Steven Halsey [MSFT]]

Check the rules are enabled, in the authoring pane. I see those two are
disabled by Default in the base OS MP.
Memory Pool Non-paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Paged Bytes 2008
--
Steven Halsey [MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Post by Lalorm
Hi Steven,
I tried your suggestion, however I still don't see those two rules. If I
select the Target as Windows Server 2008 Operating System and don't select a
specific rule, it gives me a load of counters to view and alot of memory
counters, but no paged and non paged pool counters. Am I missing something?
Cheers
Michael

Post by Steven Halsey [MSFT]
You are going to want to use "Windows Server 2008 Operating System" as the
target for the performance view.
The Rules you mentioned to get Memory are targeted at this object type,
using the base class won't get you performance counters for those objects.
--
Steven Halsey [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Post by Lalorm
Hi Anders,
thanks for your reply. What I'm doing is basically creating a performance
view and selecting the Windows Server Target which uses the Windows Core
Library management pack. I then select the group of servers to monitor
against and select the Collect by specific rules. I then select the
following rules from the list...
Memory Pool Non-Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Pages Bytes 2008
I click ok and ok again and the performance view is saved. However I don't
see any counters to select to view in the lower right hand window.
Is there something else I need to set / do before I can get these counters
to work?
Cheers
Mike

Post by Anders Bengtsson [MVP]
Hello Lalorm,
Do you see the counter in the console, else you need to start create a collection
rule to collect the performance data from the machine.
Anders Bengtsson
Microsoft MVP - System Center Operations Manager
www.contoso.se

Post by Lalorm
Hi all,
can anyone tell me how I can create a performance view to monitor paged and
non paged pool memory on our exchange servers using SCOM 2007? I
can
create
performance views for other counters, but I can't get these to work.
The
rules I'm trying to use are...
Memory Pool Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Non-paged Bytes 2008
Any help would be great.
Cheers
Mike

[Lalorm]

Thanks Steve,
yep they are disabled. I'll give it ago and hopefully that should be it.
Thanks for the info.

Cheers
Mike

Post by Steven Halsey [MSFT]
Check the rules are enabled, in the authoring pane. I see those two are
disabled by Default in the base OS MP.
Memory Pool Non-paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Paged Bytes 2008
--
Steven Halsey [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Post by Lalorm
Hi Steven,
I tried your suggestion, however I still don't see those two rules. If I
select the Target as Windows Server 2008 Operating System and don't select a
specific rule, it gives me a load of counters to view and alot of memory
counters, but no paged and non paged pool counters. Am I missing something?
Cheers
Michael

Post by Steven Halsey [MSFT]
You are going to want to use "Windows Server 2008 Operating System" as the
target for the performance view.
The Rules you mentioned to get Memory are targeted at this object type,
using the base class won't get you performance counters for those objects.
--
Steven Halsey [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm

Post by Lalorm
Hi Anders,
thanks for your reply. What I'm doing is basically creating a performance
view and selecting the Windows Server Target which uses the Windows Core
Library management pack. I then select the group of servers to monitor
against and select the Collect by specific rules. I then select the
following rules from the list...
Memory Pool Non-Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Pages Bytes 2008
I click ok and ok again and the performance view is saved. However I don't
see any counters to select to view in the lower right hand window.
Is there something else I need to set / do before I can get these counters
to work?
Cheers
Mike

Post by Anders Bengtsson [MVP]
Hello Lalorm,
Do you see the counter in the console, else you need to start create a
collection
rule to collect the performance data from the machine.
Anders Bengtsson
Microsoft MVP - System Center Operations Manager
www.contoso.se

Post by Lalorm
Hi all,
can anyone tell me how I can create a performance view to monitor paged and
non paged pool memory on our exchange servers using SCOM 2007? I
can
create
performance views for other counters, but I can't get these to work.
The
rules I'm trying to use are...
Memory Pool Paged Bytes 2008
Memory Pool Non-paged Bytes 2008
Any help would be great.
Cheers
Mike

[PM]

I know mine are disabled in SCOM 2007. I can't figure out how to get them
enabled. They are greyed out. I tried using the overrides and that didn't
work.